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Planning mid-October Trip to Florence area (need some suggestions please)

Yep my first time sort of two years ago

Non stop from Dallas, we were wiped out first day in Rome.

Yes spend a few days in Rome. A lot to see and enjoy!!
For wherever you go in Italy, get tickets ahead of time, before you leave. Same if you decide to train.
Enjoy the food
We stayed at an Airbnb a few blocks from the pantheon. But we were in Rome two weeks

Great sandwich near the Pantheon.

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Just take your time and enjoy
 
Also take a taxi from a taxi line,,, not free wheelers standing by themselves. Make sure they have a meter and use it.

We took the train from the airport to Rome. Worth it!!! And runs frequently
 
Mid - late October is typically a super time to visit if you want to be active. The weather often comfortable, even warm, but not hot. Rain surprisingly rare.

Flight arrival time usually influences our plans. If morning, we'll typically crack on to our 1st base, but if in the evening will have us considering either an overnight stop, or a stay of a few days in the arrival location. What we tend to avoid is a 2-3 night stay as that never feels enough to get settled. an overnighter conversely acts as brief respite, but barring a meal in the evening, we're not looking to do anything in that location, so it serves its purpose. So for Rome I'd say either crack on to Tuscany, or have an overnighter... or give it a few more days to give it a fair opportunity to impress.

In general 1st timers in Italy often try to cram too much in, staying only briefly in places before moving on, ending up not really experiencing a place properly, and having lots of hassle packing and unpacking, checking in and out, then travelling to the next destination, all the while feeling vaguely disorientated. I blame the glossy magazines / organised tours.

As a rule of thumb I'd suggest minimum 3-4 days stay per location, but for places like Rome or Florence where there's much you might want to see, having a full week is far from crazy. A day trip or two during that week can help widen horizons and we've tended to use such day trips as 'samplers', often leading to a return trip on another holiday, where the place gets a full 'base location' stay (e.g. Bologna, Trento, multiple places in Le Langhe). As such I liked your initial thoughts, but don't be afraid to have those day trips as 'options' rather than being inked into a schedule. Let your enjoyment drive what you do each day.
 
If you are a wine lover don’t miss Enoteca Spontanea, a small wine bar focused on natural wines and artisanal charcuterie/cheeses. Our first visit was spent tasting a half dozen orange wines. The charcuterie was better than most of what we had in Bologna. The experience was so enjoyable we cancelled dinner reservations for later in the week so we could come hang out there again.
 
We are now living in the mountain region outside Lucca about 6 months a year from Nay to Nov ( my family home) so I have a few must see for friends and family!
As far as seaside, Portovenere is my favorite with Byron’s Grotto , the church up at the top of the cliffs overlooking the Sea! And the old town to wander about. Plus there are restaurants right on the water! ! A wonderful experience but I’m not sure about the train system. I’ve driven it once but I’ve mainly accessed by boat from Viareggio. From Portovenere there is also is a ferry to the Cinque Terre .
Have you thought about renting a car ? As long as you rent after Florence to see other sites unless you are staying on the outskirts of Florence. Driving is really easy as long as you rent a compact car! Never drive in Rome but to see the Tuscan wine country a car is needed ! You could see the towns of Chianti region, San Gimignano just south of Florence , Siena , Montalcino are all worth a visit!! And of course Lucca as I’m biased is a must!! How about Pisa a real touristy thing? So many places to see !!
One thing about October is mid Oct has had the last few years a tendency to be cloudy rainy cool at least in the Lucca area but you never know!
 
Thank you for all the replies & great suggestions.... with so many places to choose from, it makes me understand why its easy to try and cram way too much into a week long trip. I definitely need to narrow things down and just settle on a few key base locations and do some day trips from there.

@braindoc - thanks for the tip on the wine bar. Actually looks like it will be in the area we will be visiting in Florence... so will definitely try to check it out

@vicogirl51 - Portovenere looks amazing. We will most likely be grabbing a rental car once we get to Florence and heading on our adventures from there. Seems like I need to decide on a direction though since the wine (Chianti) is south and the coastal areas near Portovenere are Northwest a bit. Decisions, decisions...

I also just figured out that Montepulciano d'Abruzzo is from the East coast area, and not actually Montepulciano the town (different grape).. but we may still just focus on the areas South & West of Florence and to that coastal area...

Keep the info & ideas coming - greatly appreciate them all!
 
I would do 1-2 nights in Rome, then take the fast train to Florence and skip the car there. Base in Oltrarno for a more local feel, then rent a car only for Tuscany, Chianti for easy wine days and maybe an overnight in Montepulciano. For a quick coast break, Viareggio is the simplest option from Florence.
 
@Cda & @Mom83 - Yes, this will be our first time in Italy. I have heard that Rome needs its own trip, so that's why we are figuring on just getting over the jet-lag for a day or so (with some minor exploring there) and then heading to the Florence/Tuscany area for the remainder of the trip.

So based on what I'm seeing, is mid-to-late October not super busy?... or at least compared to the high travel seasons?

Lots of great suggestions and thoughts on this - greatly appreciate the input from everyone - keep it coming!
First, would extend you stay ;-)

We are near Lucca (would put a visit there at the top of your list) every year from early September to late October. The tourist crush doesn't alleviate the way it used to and the crowds are still around the main attractions in October, although families with kids in school are out of the mix. Where we are (Serchio Valley), it gets cold towards the end of October and we turn on the heat.

If you enjoy huge celebrations, definitely take in the Comics Festival in Lucca. Less known, but amazing fun, is the Halloween celebration in nearby Borgo a Mozzano. Pisa at night is a whole different experience from daytime visits. The time for last admission to the Tower changes mid-October, so check availability.

Check the schedules for the water ferries from La Spezia and Portovenere to Cinque Terre -- a very scenic ride and a much easier way to get to the CT towns. Portovenere by itself is a good half day stop for wandering the streets and enjoying great seafood.

We drive from Rome to Lucca every year, but our kids (30-somethings) always take the train from Rome to Florence and make fun of us for driving. Once you start heading out of Florence, I would strongly suggest having a car to give you greater flexibility for times and destinations.
 
Forgive me for second guessing flying back from Florence, but are you flying non-stop from Florence to your final destination?
If not, if you are connecting, it might make more sense to return from Rome.
In that case, on initial arrival in Rome Fiumicino, take the Leonardo Express to Roma Termini, then a Frecciarossa to Florence, the latter only a two hour trip.
Enjoy Florence and Tuscany, as much as possible avoiding car rental.
Then train back to Rome, stay two or three nights, then cab from hotel to Rome Fiumicino and back home.
Regarding Tuscany, consider a day-trip from Florence to San Gimignano, using a train to Poggibonsi, then cab to San Gimignano. At San Gimignano, consider dining at Ristorante Perucà.
 
If the total trip is a week and some time will be spent in Roma, I would stay in Florence the rest of the time and maybe do a day trip or two, like go to Siena on the SITA bus or go on a coach tour which will go to Siena and bring you back. Also similar coach tours to Chianti for wine tastings and lunch or out wet to Pisa.

Near Florence, you can go up to Fiesole and also Piazzale Michelangelo for great views of the city, climb the campanile or the duomo or both.

For a week trip, renting a car for a couple of days may not be worth the hassle.

Montepulciano and Val d’Orcia are absolutely worth seeing but they’re further away from Florence and maybe not worth the travel time in a short trip.
 
October is a very busy season. Overall, I think you are trying to cover a lot in such a short time. Train into Florence & rent a car . Drive to Tuscany and plan on a day trip to Montepulciano, and a vineyard tour (depends on location you stay at). We generally stay in Greve or Montalcino areas. Skip the coast & bring car back to Florence. Much to see & do there.
 

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