Wendy&Rob
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Wendy & Rob from California, Fall 2003
After 13 days in Italy we boarded Holland America's Noordam. We started in Civitavecchia went down the Tyrrenean Sea up the Adriadic to Dubrovnic, then to Corfu, Malta, Palermo, Mahon and then Toulon & Setè, France and finished in Barcelona. We hope you will come along with us and see some of the things we saw and taste some of the tastes we shared. Buon viaggio.
This trip report was originally posted on SlowTrav.
Making our way OUT OF ROME to Civitavecchia, (Port for Rome)
* A small introduction about my writing ... As I write this Trip Report for ST, I am working from my first-ever travel journal. I did my entries virtually every day either over a glass of wine on a stone terrace or on a loggia that we were fortunate enough to have had with our room. Or over breakfast to add the things that happened the previous night. Once we were on the ship which is what this part of our TR reflects, I either wrote in the journal while sitting in the Crow's nest and watching the sea go by or I wrote while reclining on the bed in the late afternoons. I found I really enjoyed keeping my notes and putting everything down on paper.
Even though I will be going by my notes my tense will change from current-now to current-then to ... So please accept this invitation to read my thoughts and please excuse any poor grammar or spelling that there may be on this or any of the following pages. *
Thursday October 23, 2003
Our last morning in Rome, today we embark on the MS Noordam in Civitavecchia.
Awake around 10am, not bad since we went to sleep around 2 something. (We tend to hang it out in Rome, or most cities for that matter. This has actually been the first trip that we turned-in by midnight more than 2a.m.)
We have until 2 p.m. till we have to leave Rome. How much can we do in that time?????????
I still have to pack,.... and repack some of our stuff. After 12 stupendous days in Italy our bags are in a bad state.
[In post-trip-thought I did really well packing for a) the driving portion of the trip, with no laundry facilities for 8 days b) the Rome portion,laundry(shirts) and dry cleaning available, but nothing of Wendy's could be sent in because everything hangs to dry c) the Cruise portion.]
Everything that we wore in Italy will be worn on the Cruise, but a lot of things for the cruise were not needed for the land base part of our trip, but we had to get into the 'big' bags for Rome, so eveything was disturbed!
Okay, so it took a bit longer than I had expected ... 1 and 1/2 hours, before I could kneel on some of the bags and Rob could zip them closed.
I hear the clock ticking and I don't like it one bit. (Wendy stomps her foot!) :winkgrin: Where has the time gone???????? Oh yeah, that is in part 1 (Italy, October 2003). We have had such a perfect time in Rome and Tuscany, I really wish the clock would slow down and give us more time here. I guess next years' trip will just have to do. (And yes, we already know what we will be doing so as soon as we get home we will start working on that).
[Current-time: We did know what we wanted to do Oct. 2004 while on this 2003 trip, and we knew then as we know now 11-30-03 that ST will be a tremendous help for the new areas we plan on exploring.]
Okay, the bags are packed and we have N I N E T Y precious minutes till the taxi is at the hotel to drive us to the port.
Off to 'IL CHICCO' for lunch. Just up the cross street from the hotel on the other side of the V. Veneto, on V. Lonbardia. We stopped here the other day in the rain and took our panino's to go, (since they weren't set up outside). We usually have lunch here a couple of times each trip, but it didn't seem to work out this time (especially since we went to Ciampini on our first day in Rome). 'IL CHICCO' is a family run place, just up the street from the Excelsior Hotel, where we always seem to stay.
[Next year an apartment????????]
Giada was there. She is one of the daughters' of the family who own and work this WONDERFUL bar/lunch place . We have watched her grow up and always take an annual photo together. It's fun to look back over the past five or so years worth of pictures and see the changes. This year her younger sister was working there, the mother runs the register and the father is behind the counter.
I love their salad of very fresh lettuces, cubes of mozzarella, carrot shavings, corn kernals, tomatoes and if you want, which I don't, you can have tuna on top. A bit of olive oil and balsamic, salt and pepper and I have a terrific salad to go with our paninos. Every single panino/sandwich/combination between bread, whatever you want to call these very ediable creations looks scrumptous. I tend toward a caprese on a pressed roll, Rob goes for the prosciutto and various cheese panino. We shared a split of chianti, 2 espressi and 2 grappas of course. €17.10 including 2 bottles of water. (€20 with tip) This is basically our last meal in Italy for this year.
Well, it is just perfect. The rain had stopped earlier so we were able to sit outside where they have 6-8 tables set up. This place is very busy at lunch with many standing inside at the counter and others waiting for the precious few tables outside, which are set up with unbrellas.
After lunch we made a quick stop at our local 'grocer'. Up the street from 'IL CHICCO' is a market run by two brothers (twins possibly). One is always so sweet, he helps me with the wine I buy from them. The other isn't as friendly and rarely smiles, though in the recent past, years he has gotten a bit more friendly. He was on holiday. I always enjoy myself in their place. (Market Prod. Esteri S. Domingo, Via Lombardio 11-T, 4740710)
I bought 2 bottles of 'Castello D'Albola' Chianti Classico, one to drink on the ship and one to take home and share with my sister who gets migraines. She is willing to try an experiment hoping that the low level or no level of sulfites won't trigger her head-to-hurt. We'll see.
[We ended up bringing both bottles home so we will see the next time she comes up to visit us, about the Italian wines from Italy, for drinking in Italy, if they effect/trigger her migraines.]
2:10 Okay, scurry back to the hotel and gather our bags and taxi up to Civitavecchia. The taxi was waiting for us when we returned so we made our farewells and a quick exit from the Excelsior Hotel.
A bit of a long ride and the driver went way beyond the Civitavecchia Nord exit. We tried to correct him, but he said there was an exit that kept you from having to drive through town. Actually there was, but we went 10km north of the regular exit and then back tracked maybe 8km's. So this didn't work, when he got us to the port he admitted that he had used that exit when he had traveled from the North. What a waste. And actually the town of Civi. is lovely, you go along the waterfront and by nice stores, past the fortress, Michalangelo designed now used for the military. Not open to the public unfortunately. This is a wonderful little fortress. All in all I prefer our normal route. Total fare plus extra bags and tip €190. YIKES!
Oh well, that's the end of cars and taxi's basically for the rest of the trip. We will be walking.
SHIP TIME!!! Well, the Italy phase is over and we now move to ship life.
Holland America Line-MS NOORDAM
She has been in service since 1984. She is a lovely ship. No verandahs. One dining room on one level. We've been on her, with this trip, 7 times. She has had the best itineraries in the Mediterranean over the last 3-6 years. Our Itinerary this time starts here in Civitavecchia, Italy (port for Rome)
[We always work it so that our ship leaves out of Italy each fall so that we get our Italy time too, this has worked very well for us and each year I seem to add more days to our stay. This year 12 nights-next year we're planning 17 nights. After the ship leaves the port...]
We have a day at sea passing STROMBOLI VOLCANO and we cruise past the AEOLIAN ISLANDS and go through the STRAIT of MESSINA. (Doing laundry)
Saturday we will be in DUBROVNIK, CROATIA Sunday we will visit the island of CORFU Monday - VALLETTA on the island of MALTA Tuesday - PALERMO on the island of SICILY Wednesday - sailing the STRAIT of BONIFACIO Thursday - MAHON, on the island of MENORCA one of Spain's BALEARIC ISLANDS Friday - ST. TROPEZ [NO SCRATCH THAT-TOULON, FRANCE due to bad weather]. Saturday-SETè Possibly rent a car and drive up to CARCASSONNE. [This is what we did and it is an absolute must for anyone who visits that area] Sunday November 2, 2003 - BARCELONA, and the end of our trip, because we fly home that day. But, today is Thursday October 23, 2003 and we are ready to begin this voyage.
Cabin 058. Table 125 - table for 2 near center with two tables for 6 near by us. Nice location, good table.
The ship seems to be virtually full and the passangers seem to be a well traveled group.
Frank Buckingham is on board for the different port talks and history forums about our destinations. Frank is brilliant. (I think of Bill Thayer and all the information he has to empart on us, and Frank is the same. It would be amazing to watch these two men in conversation together).
We haven't had the honor to sail with Frank Buckingham for the past couple of years and we had made a comment last year requesting they bring Frank back. I don't know if they listened or what the circumstances were, we were just so happy to have him aboard.
John Scott is the captain and his wife Susan is traveling with him as she always does. We met them last year on the Noordam. Both are very nice and we have had the priveledge to dine with them at the formal event and also on one evening Susan joined Rob and myself and Peter the Cruise Director for a quiet dinner.
Peter Daems, Cruise Director, Dutch - from Gouda pronounced Houda according to Peter. We have now sailed with him 9 times also, but on various ships with Holland America.
All-in-all this is going to be a great cruise. We like everthing. The ship and the itinerary are both just dandy.
[We like to cruise, we have the great fortune to be able to do 2 trips a year and though we try other lines periodicly, we prefer Holland Ameica Line. We like the fact that they have a history in cruising and carrying passangers across Seas. This is their 130th anniversary. Anyway we like ships! As well as Italy!]
The afternoon is given to unpacking what I just packed 3 hours ago and then doing our tour of the ship. We always end up at the 'Crow's Nest' with a split of Henkel 'champagne' watching out the front windows toward the breakwater. The Sea is rolling today, we suspect there will be a few not feeling too well tonight.
We have the boat drill at 4:30 and the ship drops Her lines at 5pm.
First night not much to write, I suspect my writing here will be basically on the ports not on ship life, but we'll see what happens as the pages unfold. For right now though I am going to move on to the next day, which is a Sea Day. So Buon Notte e Ciao.
After 13 days in Italy we boarded Holland America's Noordam. We started in Civitavecchia went down the Tyrrenean Sea up the Adriadic to Dubrovnic, then to Corfu, Malta, Palermo, Mahon and then Toulon & Setè, France and finished in Barcelona. We hope you will come along with us and see some of the things we saw and taste some of the tastes we shared. Buon viaggio.
This trip report was originally posted on SlowTrav.
Making our way OUT OF ROME to Civitavecchia, (Port for Rome)
* A small introduction about my writing ... As I write this Trip Report for ST, I am working from my first-ever travel journal. I did my entries virtually every day either over a glass of wine on a stone terrace or on a loggia that we were fortunate enough to have had with our room. Or over breakfast to add the things that happened the previous night. Once we were on the ship which is what this part of our TR reflects, I either wrote in the journal while sitting in the Crow's nest and watching the sea go by or I wrote while reclining on the bed in the late afternoons. I found I really enjoyed keeping my notes and putting everything down on paper.
Even though I will be going by my notes my tense will change from current-now to current-then to ... So please accept this invitation to read my thoughts and please excuse any poor grammar or spelling that there may be on this or any of the following pages. *
Thursday October 23, 2003
Our last morning in Rome, today we embark on the MS Noordam in Civitavecchia.
Awake around 10am, not bad since we went to sleep around 2 something. (We tend to hang it out in Rome, or most cities for that matter. This has actually been the first trip that we turned-in by midnight more than 2a.m.)
We have until 2 p.m. till we have to leave Rome. How much can we do in that time?????????
I still have to pack,.... and repack some of our stuff. After 12 stupendous days in Italy our bags are in a bad state.
[In post-trip-thought I did really well packing for a) the driving portion of the trip, with no laundry facilities for 8 days b) the Rome portion,laundry(shirts) and dry cleaning available, but nothing of Wendy's could be sent in because everything hangs to dry c) the Cruise portion.]
Everything that we wore in Italy will be worn on the Cruise, but a lot of things for the cruise were not needed for the land base part of our trip, but we had to get into the 'big' bags for Rome, so eveything was disturbed!
Okay, so it took a bit longer than I had expected ... 1 and 1/2 hours, before I could kneel on some of the bags and Rob could zip them closed.
I hear the clock ticking and I don't like it one bit. (Wendy stomps her foot!) :winkgrin: Where has the time gone???????? Oh yeah, that is in part 1 (Italy, October 2003). We have had such a perfect time in Rome and Tuscany, I really wish the clock would slow down and give us more time here. I guess next years' trip will just have to do. (And yes, we already know what we will be doing so as soon as we get home we will start working on that).
[Current-time: We did know what we wanted to do Oct. 2004 while on this 2003 trip, and we knew then as we know now 11-30-03 that ST will be a tremendous help for the new areas we plan on exploring.]
Okay, the bags are packed and we have N I N E T Y precious minutes till the taxi is at the hotel to drive us to the port.
Off to 'IL CHICCO' for lunch. Just up the cross street from the hotel on the other side of the V. Veneto, on V. Lonbardia. We stopped here the other day in the rain and took our panino's to go, (since they weren't set up outside). We usually have lunch here a couple of times each trip, but it didn't seem to work out this time (especially since we went to Ciampini on our first day in Rome). 'IL CHICCO' is a family run place, just up the street from the Excelsior Hotel, where we always seem to stay.
[Next year an apartment????????]
Giada was there. She is one of the daughters' of the family who own and work this WONDERFUL bar/lunch place . We have watched her grow up and always take an annual photo together. It's fun to look back over the past five or so years worth of pictures and see the changes. This year her younger sister was working there, the mother runs the register and the father is behind the counter.
I love their salad of very fresh lettuces, cubes of mozzarella, carrot shavings, corn kernals, tomatoes and if you want, which I don't, you can have tuna on top. A bit of olive oil and balsamic, salt and pepper and I have a terrific salad to go with our paninos. Every single panino/sandwich/combination between bread, whatever you want to call these very ediable creations looks scrumptous. I tend toward a caprese on a pressed roll, Rob goes for the prosciutto and various cheese panino. We shared a split of chianti, 2 espressi and 2 grappas of course. €17.10 including 2 bottles of water. (€20 with tip) This is basically our last meal in Italy for this year.
Well, it is just perfect. The rain had stopped earlier so we were able to sit outside where they have 6-8 tables set up. This place is very busy at lunch with many standing inside at the counter and others waiting for the precious few tables outside, which are set up with unbrellas.
After lunch we made a quick stop at our local 'grocer'. Up the street from 'IL CHICCO' is a market run by two brothers (twins possibly). One is always so sweet, he helps me with the wine I buy from them. The other isn't as friendly and rarely smiles, though in the recent past, years he has gotten a bit more friendly. He was on holiday. I always enjoy myself in their place. (Market Prod. Esteri S. Domingo, Via Lombardio 11-T, 4740710)
I bought 2 bottles of 'Castello D'Albola' Chianti Classico, one to drink on the ship and one to take home and share with my sister who gets migraines. She is willing to try an experiment hoping that the low level or no level of sulfites won't trigger her head-to-hurt. We'll see.
[We ended up bringing both bottles home so we will see the next time she comes up to visit us, about the Italian wines from Italy, for drinking in Italy, if they effect/trigger her migraines.]
2:10 Okay, scurry back to the hotel and gather our bags and taxi up to Civitavecchia. The taxi was waiting for us when we returned so we made our farewells and a quick exit from the Excelsior Hotel.
A bit of a long ride and the driver went way beyond the Civitavecchia Nord exit. We tried to correct him, but he said there was an exit that kept you from having to drive through town. Actually there was, but we went 10km north of the regular exit and then back tracked maybe 8km's. So this didn't work, when he got us to the port he admitted that he had used that exit when he had traveled from the North. What a waste. And actually the town of Civi. is lovely, you go along the waterfront and by nice stores, past the fortress, Michalangelo designed now used for the military. Not open to the public unfortunately. This is a wonderful little fortress. All in all I prefer our normal route. Total fare plus extra bags and tip €190. YIKES!
Oh well, that's the end of cars and taxi's basically for the rest of the trip. We will be walking.
SHIP TIME!!! Well, the Italy phase is over and we now move to ship life.
Holland America Line-MS NOORDAM
She has been in service since 1984. She is a lovely ship. No verandahs. One dining room on one level. We've been on her, with this trip, 7 times. She has had the best itineraries in the Mediterranean over the last 3-6 years. Our Itinerary this time starts here in Civitavecchia, Italy (port for Rome)
[We always work it so that our ship leaves out of Italy each fall so that we get our Italy time too, this has worked very well for us and each year I seem to add more days to our stay. This year 12 nights-next year we're planning 17 nights. After the ship leaves the port...]
We have a day at sea passing STROMBOLI VOLCANO and we cruise past the AEOLIAN ISLANDS and go through the STRAIT of MESSINA. (Doing laundry)
Saturday we will be in DUBROVNIK, CROATIA Sunday we will visit the island of CORFU Monday - VALLETTA on the island of MALTA Tuesday - PALERMO on the island of SICILY Wednesday - sailing the STRAIT of BONIFACIO Thursday - MAHON, on the island of MENORCA one of Spain's BALEARIC ISLANDS Friday - ST. TROPEZ [NO SCRATCH THAT-TOULON, FRANCE due to bad weather]. Saturday-SETè Possibly rent a car and drive up to CARCASSONNE. [This is what we did and it is an absolute must for anyone who visits that area] Sunday November 2, 2003 - BARCELONA, and the end of our trip, because we fly home that day. But, today is Thursday October 23, 2003 and we are ready to begin this voyage.
Cabin 058. Table 125 - table for 2 near center with two tables for 6 near by us. Nice location, good table.
The ship seems to be virtually full and the passangers seem to be a well traveled group.
Frank Buckingham is on board for the different port talks and history forums about our destinations. Frank is brilliant. (I think of Bill Thayer and all the information he has to empart on us, and Frank is the same. It would be amazing to watch these two men in conversation together).
We haven't had the honor to sail with Frank Buckingham for the past couple of years and we had made a comment last year requesting they bring Frank back. I don't know if they listened or what the circumstances were, we were just so happy to have him aboard.
John Scott is the captain and his wife Susan is traveling with him as she always does. We met them last year on the Noordam. Both are very nice and we have had the priveledge to dine with them at the formal event and also on one evening Susan joined Rob and myself and Peter the Cruise Director for a quiet dinner.
Peter Daems, Cruise Director, Dutch - from Gouda pronounced Houda according to Peter. We have now sailed with him 9 times also, but on various ships with Holland America.
All-in-all this is going to be a great cruise. We like everthing. The ship and the itinerary are both just dandy.
[We like to cruise, we have the great fortune to be able to do 2 trips a year and though we try other lines periodicly, we prefer Holland Ameica Line. We like the fact that they have a history in cruising and carrying passangers across Seas. This is their 130th anniversary. Anyway we like ships! As well as Italy!]
The afternoon is given to unpacking what I just packed 3 hours ago and then doing our tour of the ship. We always end up at the 'Crow's Nest' with a split of Henkel 'champagne' watching out the front windows toward the breakwater. The Sea is rolling today, we suspect there will be a few not feeling too well tonight.
We have the boat drill at 4:30 and the ship drops Her lines at 5pm.
First night not much to write, I suspect my writing here will be basically on the ports not on ship life, but we'll see what happens as the pages unfold. For right now though I am going to move on to the next day, which is a Sea Day. So Buon Notte e Ciao.